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Postby pcbutts1 » Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:01 pm

Does clean up have a backup feature? I dual boot windows XP and Windows XP 64 bit. Clean up removed some files from my 64bit drive and now that drive does not fully boot, all I get is the desktop only, no icons or taskbar or start menu. I was not booted in 64 bit when it did this. I was running XP 32 bit. Is there a way to restore the files that were deleted. I have read that the ability to chose which drive to scan will be included in the next release but is there any way to fix my issue?

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Postby rec46 » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:00 pm

No, cleanup has no backup. As it's stated on the cleanup download page, you should backup your files or things you do not want lost before using cleanup just to play it safe. If you back up files and other things you do not want to loose, then you would not be going through this problem now.

You can also save things to CD before running cleanup for the same reason. Sorry if you lost things you wanted to keep. We recommend you follow the instructions on the download page in the future.

Sorry,
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Postby Del » Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:41 pm

This is sort of an extension of pcbutts1 question, which I was about to post as a new item. As I understand it, V4.0 will perform its operation on any fixed drive on the computer. I made an image using Acronis True Image on a D partition on my single drive, thinking that I could let Cleanup do its worst and I could simply restore my image. This does not seem to be the case whether the image is on a separate partition or on a second hard drive, whether USB or otherwise. My case is too small for a second hard drive and I haven't broken in the USB drive yet, but it would appear neither is a viable safety net. Full back up on CD would require about 13 disks.

I want to do a full cleanup to test it out. Will something like the above safety procedure be available in the v4.5, assuming that pcbutts1 is correct that a drive choice will be a feature of the updated version?

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Re: Backup

Postby sgould » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:04 pm

Del wrote:I want to do a full cleanup to test it out. Will something like the above safety procedure be available in the v4.5, assuming that pcbutts1 is correct that a drive choice will be a feature of the updated version?


Sort of but not exactly! :D With CleanUp! 4.5 you will be able to perform a "demo run" which will go through all the motions of a regular run of CleanUp! (in order to identify which files to delete) but will not actually delete anything from your hard disk. A more advanced user option will also allow you to restrict which drive(s) CleanUp! scans for temporary files. So, in your case, you could choose to scan only the C: drive, thereby excluding the D: drive.

See the announcement in the CleanUp! 4.5 Beta forum and try it out if you like.
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Postby pcbutts1 » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:09 pm

rec46 wrote:No, cleanup has no backup. As it's stated on the cleanup download page, you should backup your files or things you do not want lost before using cleanup just to play it safe. If you back up files and other things you do not want to loose, then you would not be going through this problem now.

You can also save things to CD before running cleanup for the same reason. Sorry if you lost things you wanted to keep. We recommend you follow the instructions on the download page in the future.

Sorry,
Bob



Maybe you misunderstood. Cleanup deleted some system files that prevented XP 64bit from booting, which means that it deletes something that it should not. One should not have to back up his whole operating system to cleanup temp files. I chose a custom clean but it still did not show files it was going to delete. I did not know it was going to clean up the D drive and when I saw it I assumed it was only going to clean up the temp files not break my operating system.
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Postby pcbutts1 » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:15 pm

For the record I am not upset at my situation because I only installed XP 64 bit to test only and I have no other files on that partition. i just want to point out an issue/bug that could be fixed in a future release.
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Postby pcbutts1 » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:42 pm

I ran 4.5 beta in demo mode to see what it would delete and if you look at the files below those are folders not files. Those are folders on my 64 bit partition. None of those have a file extension of anything that cleanup lists under temp files and they are not prefetch files.

F:\WINDOWS\Debug\UserMode\ChkAcc.bak - deleted
F:\WINDOWS\Resources\Themes\Luna.theme - deleted
F:\WINDOWS\Resources\Themes\Windows Classic.theme - deleted
F:\WINDOWS\system32\config\systemprofile\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\brndlog.bak - deleted
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Postby Del » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:07 pm

Steve,

Thanks, I think I understand well enough the features relative to demo and choice of drive for temporary files in the new version. I don't have a lot of confidence in my experience to assess the impact of all that CleanUp does, so have been hesitant to try any but the basic cleanup, but even then did not realize that drives other than the current C: drive were being accessed.

I did a search under Acronis Trueimage Driveimage Powerquest, any or all and all that came up was the pcbutts1 post above, so it looks like image backup programs have not been much discussed. I have four or more images on a second partition on one Wxp and on a second hard drive on another Wxp. When I chose to delete cookies, for example, on a CleanUp run, it appears I deleted all the cookies stored on the image files on my computer. That's no biggie, nor would any of the other items, with the possible exception of Temp files really be a concern.

Basic question is this: have you done any testing on what affect CleanUp might have on the ability to restore an image which has been modified by the cleanup application.? If the only significance is that the restored image is modified, that is an issue which can be dealt with on its own. Imaging is not a simple procedure, or I should say restoring an image is not simple, and things can go wrong, not the least of which is ending up with a blank hard drive. I think files on an image can be changed through an image editor included in the program itself, but to change a file otherwise could be a risk.

I'm serious enough about CleanUp to have made the recommended donation before posting this, sort of like buying a ticket for what may seem like an oddball question. I hope I have stated things clearly enough to allow you to address this. I apologize if already covered somewhere else on the forum or elsewhere, but I didn't find anything.

[Getting a little concerned with what pcbutts1 is bringing up. This could substantually nullify the whole image backup process unless done entirely off the computer. Why can't the program be limited in its entirety to the local C: partition?]
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